我們是如何被創(chuàng)造的：靈魂和精神的區(qū)別

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RAFAEL TEIXEIRA·2021年4月21日周三

意大利廣播電臺11.11對凱史先生的采訪摘錄 2021年04月14日

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摘要

在一次意大利電臺采訪中，Keshe先生被要求從他的角度詳細解釋靈魂和精神之間的區(qū)別。有趣的是，這個問題是從概念的角度提出的。在西方的精神信仰中，人們希望以具體的方式來定義術語。相反，Keshe先生漂亮地解釋了現實中的創(chuàng)造是如何產生的。

問：安東尼婭再次詢問了關于靈魂的一些細節(jié)......對你來說，你怎么看，你怎么解釋靈魂和精神？翻譯補充說，你可以用意識來代替精神。

K- 你可以用不同的方式來看待它，而不是我們看待它的方式。我從科學的角度看它。首先你要明白，我不是一個宗教的人，因為當你深入了解創(chuàng)造的知識時，宗教就成為科學的一部分。當你理解了這些知識，你就可以用科學來解釋宗教。但在宗教的世界里，他們只談論精神、靈魂、天堂和地獄，以及造物主（期望你相信他們所說的）這都是好的，但是當你不明白這些真正的意思時，那么他們就可以用這些辭藻踐踏你（濫用）。

當你達到理解創(chuàng)造過程的周期時，你清楚地看到創(chuàng)造有一個模式，同樣的過程一次又一次地重復，它不可能有任何不同，因為創(chuàng)造是由我們所說的場的流動的相互作用而產生的，這就像水，河流的流動或風的流動。

在現實中，創(chuàng)造來自于不同M磁力場的相互作用，但它給你展現的不同效果和不同表現，這取決于它們有多強以及有多少，但在它們的本質上創(chuàng)造的過程是相同的。

在科學的世界里，我們解釋說必須有一個源頭，我們把這個源頭稱為 "原則"，或者一個創(chuàng)造者，也有人稱它為上帝，當源頭從它本身到一個點，我們稱之為 "過渡"，當它到達某個地方的某一點時，然后在與另一個環(huán)境和其他場的相互作用中，它將自己表現為某種東西，當它變得明顯時我們稱之為 "物質"，我們可以看到、感覺到和探測到的物質。

因此，例如，我們有太陽作為來源，太陽的光線（過渡）在太陽系的范圍內穿梭旅行，并在與其他事物的相互作用中成為物質或粒子，它們聚集在一起，創(chuàng)造了像地球這樣的行星，地球通過其自身條件的（場體相互作用）創(chuàng)造出來了生命，那么，我們的生命是另一個聚集一些場的過程，然后才表現為人的物理身體。因此，這個過程始終是相同的。太陽系有一個太陽，當它的場輻射出來，然后降速，就會出現月亮、地球和其他的東西。

對人的身體來說，這不可能有什么不同。人的身體必須也是有一個太陽，一個源頭，這個源頭的場與環(huán)境相互作用，也就是地球的大氣層，或母親的子宮，來表現為人的物質身體，如果我們有一個太陽系，它的中心有一個太陽，這樣它就可以表現為一個太陽系，同樣，人的靈魂（STM）也必須在人的身體里，這就是先知們所解釋的，不幸的是，這些并不是宗教人士和祭司們一直在告訴我們的那樣，所以他們似乎自己從來就沒有理解過這些知識。

STM在人的體內，非常強大。它是一個太陽，它與地球的M場相互作用，創(chuàng)造了人的身體物理性質，太陽本身有一個靈魂，地球的物理性也有自己的靈魂，因此人的體性當中也有自己的靈魂，我們把個體性的靈魂（STP）稱為精神，身體內的STM，是靈魂。

同樣，太陽系有一個太陽，它有自己的心跳，有自己的特點，它的場在這個太陽系的范圍內，它們在宇宙中冷卻下來，為自己創(chuàng)造了一個外殼，我們稱之為太陽系。在這種減速中，地球、月球和任何東西得到了創(chuàng)造。月亮、地球、太陽，都有自己的靈魂，因為它們有自己的存在，有自己的物理性質。

現在你試圖向我解釋什么是靈魂，什么是精神。

人的精神是他（身體）的靈魂，它是運行我們身體的東西，STM在人的大腦中心。現在我們可以從科學的角度來解釋它，因為我們知道太陽有一種力量，它使太陽。地球也有一種力量，它使地球。我們知道STM也有一種力量。我們可以增加它，我們可以從它那里獲取，我們可以支持它，并以此支持人的STP，也就是你們所說的精神。

它必須被解釋?，F在我把它留給你來翻譯，等你說完我就去喝杯茶。

問：哇哦！你是怎么做到的？

K- 現在你明白了靈魂和精神之間的區(qū)別。這就是為什么神職人員或牧師永遠無法回答我們的，現在我們通過科學知道了答案，在科學的方式上我們可以解釋。

這就是為什么我給你們甘斯，可以提升你身體的靈魂，因為有了它，你與STM互動，兩者的互動就是你所說的情感，我可以與你的情緒互動，我可以復制你的情緒并提升它們。

新的科學的美妙之處在于，我們再也不可能造假了，我們不能被神職人員再告知那些謊言，因為他們中的許多人甚至從未讀過Book of God-神之書，他們只是編造他們所喜歡的事物，那么現在你明白了什么是靈魂，什么是精神。現在我們有了這些知識那我們就可以與他們來互動，我們可以在他們的強度上去創(chuàng)造出場去提升他們。

現在你去向教皇解釋這一點給他們聽，然后看看他是否還能繼續(xù)當教皇，或者也許他會放下他的帽子說"是的，人類已經發(fā)現了自己的真相"。

問：那就真是太好了。

K-如果你去到那兒......

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English Transcription:

Difference between Soul and Spirit -

(1:00).

Q: Antonia asked again some detail about the soul … what for you, how do see, how do you interpret soul and spirit? Q: Instead of spirit you can speak about consciousness.

K- There are different ways, then the way we look at it, or the way I look at it, from the scientific point of view. You got to understand, (1:02). I am not a man of religion, because when you go to the depth of the knowledge of creation, religion becomes part of the science. You understand what you call religion as part of the science, because then you can explain it. In the world of religion, they speak about the spirit, soul, heaven and hell, and they speak about the Creator. This is all good. Because when you don't understand it, they can abuse you with these words. But when you reach the cycle of understanding the process of creation, and you see the same process repeats itself in the same pattern, then you understand creation has a pattern. Cannot be any different, because the creation is created out of interaction of rivers of what we call, fields. If they be rivers of water, rivers of wind, but in reality the creation is from interaction of different M fields, and depends how strong they are, and depends how much of it, then it gives you different effects. It gives you different manifestations. But in different essence, all of them the process is the same. So in the world of science we explain, there has to be a source, we call it, a Principle, we call it a Creator, we call it a God. When this source travels from its source to a point, which is in transition, (1:04). and then at a certain point somewhere, in interaction with another environment, another fields, manifest's itself as something. So it becomes manifested, we call it, matter. We see it, we can detect it, we can feel it. So we have the sun, the rays of the sun as a source, travel the span of the solar system, in interaction with other things becomes pieces, becomes matter, matters come together creates planet earth, planet earth on condition of itself, creates life. And our life is another process for gathering some fields, then it manifests itself as a physicality of the man. So the process is always the same. The solar system has a sun, and then when it slows down, it appears as moon, earth, whatever.

So they cannot be any different for the body of the man. The body of the man has to have a sun, has to have a source, that the interaction of the field of this source with its environment, which is the earth's atmospheric condition, the womb of the mother, manifests itself as a physicality of the man. So if we have a solar system, which has got a sun in the center that it can manifest itself as a solar system, so the Soul of the Man (STM) has to be inside the body of the man. So whatever the priest, whatever religious people have been telling us, because they never understood by themselves, they were explained by the prophets, so the STM is inside the man, very powerful, it's a sun, and its interaction with the M field of the earth creates the physicality of the man. Sun has a soul of itself, and so the physicality of the earth has a soul of itself, so physicality of the man has a soul of itself. (1:06). The Soul of the Physicality (STP) we call it spirit. The STM inside the sun, is the soul. So we, the solar system has a sun, which has its own heartbeat, its own characteristics, travels the span of this solar system, cools down in the U, creates it shell, what we call the solar system, and in that slowing down creates earth, moon, whatever, and then moon, earth, sun, have their own soul, because they have their own existence, their own physicality.

So now you try to explain to me what is the soul and what is the spirit. The spirit of the man is the Soul of his (Physicality), is what runs our physicality, and the STM is in the center of the brain of the man. Now scientifically we can explain it, and because we know sun has a strength which makes the sun. Earth has a strength which makes the earth. We know the STM has a strength too. We can add to it, we can take from it, we can support it, and with that we support the STP of the man you call it the spirit. So it had to be explained. Now I leave it to you, and I go for a cup of tea by the time you finish.

Q: Wow!

K- Now you understand the difference between the soul and the spirit. This is why the priest, the clergy, could never answer us. Now we know the answer through science. Scientifically we can do it. That's why I can give a Gans that it elevates the soul of your physicality, (1:08). with it you interact with the STM, which you call the interaction of the two, the emotion. I can interact with your emotions, I can copy your emotions and elevate it. This is the beauty of the new science, we can't fake it anymore, we can't be told lies by clergy, whatever they want, because they themselves cannot even read the Book of God, they just made whatever they like. So now you understand what a soul is and what a spirit is. Now we have the knowledge, we can interact with them, we can create the fields which is their strength, to elevate them. So now you go and explain this to the Pope and see if he still stays a Pope, or he puts his hat down and says, yes, man has found his truth about himself.

Q: That would be nice..

K- If you go there, and see if your head is on your neck by the time you walk out.